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====== Traveling Between Focuses ====== | ====== Traveling Between Focuses ====== | ||
- | Once a focus finishes, there is a wait of between 12 and 36 hours before the next focus spawns. | + | Once a focus finishes, there is a wait of between 12 and 36 hours before the next focus spawns. |
Traveling in EVE Online, especially with expensive items, is not a simple task. Incursion runners make attractive targets to gankers because of the value of the items we transport. | Traveling in EVE Online, especially with expensive items, is not a simple task. Incursion runners make attractive targets to gankers because of the value of the items we transport. | ||
- | There are three primary things you need to move between focuses. | + | This guide covers: |
- | - Your capsule/pod with your implants.\\ | + | - [[guides: |
- | - Your incursion | + | - [[guides: |
- | - Your expensive | + | - [[guides: |
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- | There are different ways to move each of these items. | + | |
**Note: There is no such thing as 100% safe in EVE Online. | **Note: There is no such thing as 100% safe in EVE Online. | ||
- | ===== Capsule/ | ||
- | If you're flying with us, we highly recommend (and sometimes require) | + | The basics of moving safely: |
+ | |||
+ | * **Avoid lowsec/ | ||
+ | * **Avoid gank pipes.** Certain chokepoints tend to be camped by professional gankers. At all costs, avoid taking Bowheads or blingy incursion ships through | ||
+ | * **Scout ahead.** If you can, send a second character (in a cheap ship - any faction Shuttle works nicely, though | ||
+ | * **Be an unattractive target.** Make it cost more to gank you than the gankers will get back. | ||
+ | * **Use out of game resources** to plan your route and check for activity | ||
+ | * **Make stashes** of ships on either side of major gank pipes. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Part 1: Moving Your Pod with Implants ===== | ||
- | Although the implants we tend to use are quite expensive, there' | + | We highly recommend (and sometimes require) you use implants to fly with us. Take a look at the [[guides: |
If all you're moving is your pod, move in a cheap quick aligning ship (a Shuttle is generally fine), do **NOT** fly through lowsec/ | If all you're moving is your pod, move in a cheap quick aligning ship (a Shuttle is generally fine), do **NOT** fly through lowsec/ | ||
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You can combine moving your pod with moving either your primary incursion running ships and/or your expensive modules. | You can combine moving your pod with moving either your primary incursion running ships and/or your expensive modules. | ||
- | ===== The Basics of Moving | + | ===== Part 2: Moving |
- | The basics of moving safely | + | The key to moving |
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- | | + | - Use a **Bowhead** to move your empty ship hulls. |
- | * Be an unattractive target. | + | |
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- | Use [[https:// | + | Do **NOT** carry expensive modules in your incursion ship when travelling between focuses. Do **NOT** put them in the cargo hold. |
- | Then look at [[https:// | + | ==== Travel Fit ==== |
- | If you think something looks suspicious, look at it closer. Click on the system name in Dotlan | + | If you plan to fly your incursion battleship between focuses, a good travel fit can make you an unattractive target. Strip off all your expensive incursion modules |
- | You may be able to get intel from incursion chat channels about active ganking fleets during moving periods. Please do **NOT** advertise where or when you are moving your assets, as these channels are also monitored by gankers, | + | Use the [[https:// |
- | Be an unattractive target - use a tanky travel fit. The idea here is simply to be worth less as a kill mail than the cost to kill you. Do **NOT** carry expensive modules on your incursion ship when travelling between focuses.\\ | + | ==== Bowhead ==== |
- | Use the [[https:// | + | If you have multiple ships to move, using a Bowhead might be worthwhile. Bowheads are special ships that can carry fitted ships in their holds. A Bowhead can carry up to 4 battleships at a time, with good skills |
- | === Move Bling Separately === | + | Minimize your risk of loss by stripping all modules (except rigs) from your ships before moving the ships in your Bowhead. |
- | Move your expensive modules (" | + | Before transitioning to using a Bowhead |
- | === Travel Fit Your Battleship === | + | **A Note on Abyssal DCU' |
+ | Some pilots will use an Abyssal Damage Control Unit on their Bowhead. There are benefits to doing this, namely it makes it very difficult for ganking entities to determine the amount of ships required to kill you (due to not knowing the resist profile of the module). The downside is that it can make you a more attractive target, and gankers may just use an overkill amount of ships to make sure the job gets done no matter what. | ||
- | Once you've stripped out the blingy modules, you need to move your battleship hull(s) separately, or together in a Bowhead. If piloting your battleship, put as much tank on it as possible: shield, armor, and hull. Use inexpensive T2 modules. Example travel fits can be found below. | + | ===== Part 3: Moving Your Modules ===== |
- | === Triglavian and Edencom Systems === | + | There are several ways to move your expensive incursion modules safely: |
- | As you travel you will encounter both Triglavian (Trig) and Edencom systems. | + | - **Taxi** |
+ | - **Blockade Runner** | ||
+ | - **Courier** - let someone else handle it | ||
- | === Insurgency Systems | + | ==== Taxi ==== |
- | The Havoc expansion (November 2023) introduced a new mechanism that allows certain highsec systems to be "corrupted" | + | "Taxi" is a nickname for a ship designed |
- | ==== Scouting ==== | + | === Sub one second align taxi === |
- | If you just have 1 incursion | + | The safest option is to have a ship that can enter warp in < 1s - this is (effectively) uncatchable in highsec (unless you sit idle on a gate and your post-jump invulnerability times out - nothing will save you then). Only 2 ships can achieve this: the Hecate and the Jackdaw. The Hecate requires |
+ | Note that you will need to keep the Hecate (or Jackdaw) in " | ||
- | === Scouting With One Omega Account === | + | Be aware that the cargo holds for these ships are quite small. Once you have more than a ship or two's worth of modules to move, you may find yourself outgrowing their limited cargo space. |
- | If you only have a single Omega account or are still Alpha, you can't have a second character on to scout yourself. In this case, you have 2 options: ask someone to scout for you, or self-scout using " | ||
- | Delayed scouting: | + | === Sub two second align taxi === |
- | - Log in your scout character, enter the next system with it, dock up and log off. | + | |
- | - Log in the character flying the hull and move to that system, dock up and log off. | + | |
- | - Log in the taxi alt carrying the bling and move the taxi to that system, dock up and log off. | + | |
- | - Rinse and repeat until you are to the new focus. | + | |
- | ===== Incursion Ship Travel Fits ===== | + | If you cannot afford a <1s align ship, we recommend that you use a courier service (see the section below on Public Hauling Services) to move your items, with appropriate collateral on the contract to protect your items. |
- | ==== Battleships ==== | + | https:// |
- | For all battleship travel fits - Ignore the rigs listed, use the rigs you normally fly with. If you want to fly a truly passive fit, replace the two Multispectrum Shield Hardener IIs with a EM Shield Amplifier II and a Thermal Shield Amplifier II. | + | A single stealth bomber can do over 5,000hp of damage in a single hit, and a single T2 artillery Tornado has an alpha strike of over 10,000hp from over 100km from its target. |
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- | Damage Control II | + | |
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- | 1600mm Steel Plates II | + | |
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- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | |
- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | |
- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
- | 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive | + | |
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- | Improved Cloaking Device II | + | |
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- | Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II | + | |
- | Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II | + | |
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- | **Travel Vindicator** | + | |
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- | 1600mm Steel Plates II | + | |
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- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | |
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- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
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- | 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive | + | |
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- | Improved Cloaking Device II | + | |
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- | Large Kinetic Armor Reinforcer I | + | |
- | Large Thermal Armor Reinforcer I | + | |
- | Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II | + | |
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- | **Travel Paladin** | + | |
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- | Damage Control II | + | |
- | Multispectrum Energized Membrane II | + | |
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- | 1600mm Steel Plates II | + | |
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- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | |
- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | |
- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
- | 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive | + | |
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- | Large Energy Burst Aerator II | + | |
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- | **Travel Nightmare** | + | |
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- | [Nightmare, *Nightmare] | + | |
- | Damage Control II | + | |
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- | 1600mm Steel Plates II | + | |
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- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | |
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- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
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- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
- | 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive | + | |
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- | [Empty High slot] | + | |
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- | Improved Cloaking Device II | + | |
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- | Large Explosive Armor Reinforcer I | + | |
- | Large Kinetic Armor Reinforcer I | + | |
- | Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II | + | |
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- | ** Travel Nestor** | + | |
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- | [Nestor, Travel Nestor] | + | |
- | Damage Control II | + | |
- | Multispectrum Energized Membrane II | + | |
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- | 1600mm Steel Plates II | + | |
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- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | |
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- | Large Shield Extender II | + | |
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- | 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive | + | |
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- | [Empty High slot] | + | |
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- | Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II | + | |
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- | ===== Other Travel Fits ===== | + | |
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- | Whilst it's important to move your ships between focuses, as your ship fits become more valuable, moving the " | + | |
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- | *NEVER* move a ship with its incursions fit between focuses, even in highsec. | + | |
==== Blockade Runner ==== | ==== Blockade Runner ==== | ||
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For your lows, simply fit sufficient Nanos to reduce your align time to a reasonable level. For rigs, Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizers are excellent for those super fast warps. | For your lows, simply fit sufficient Nanos to reduce your align time to a reasonable level. For rigs, Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizers are excellent for those super fast warps. | ||
- | ==== Taxi ==== | + | ==== Public Hauling Services |
- | " | + | A more risk-free approach |
- | **Please Note:** We do NOT recommend traversing lowsec or nullsec systems with your incursion ships or modules. | + | ===== Part 4: Checking Your Route ===== |
- | In general, if gankers get a lock on your ship, they can put enough firepower into it to destroy it and loot the wreck before Concord ships arrive. | + | To move safely: |
- | * Use a Scout. | + | - Check for Edencom and Triglavian systems on your route (if you have poor standings |
- | * Use a small ship (or a ship with a small signature radius). | + | |
- | * Use a cloak. | + | - Check for ganking activity |
- | * Get into warp quicker than someone can lock you. In highsec, this is truly the only way to avoid being caught (at least directly, it IS possible | + | - Scout ahead |
- | A combination of all these methods can also be helpful, because if one of the methods isn't 100% successful in keeping you safe, the others may be, and you'll warp off safely. | ||
- | === Sub one second align taxi === | + | ==== Triglavian and Edencom Systems ==== |
- | The safest option is to have a ship that can enter warp in < 1s - this is (effectively) uncatchable in highsec (unless you sit idle on a gate and your post-jump invulnerability times out - nothing | + | As you travel you will encounter both Triglavian |
- | Although there are a number of ships that can get to < 1s align, you also need to be able to carry enough cargo to move your incursion modules in a single trip, and we believe the Hecate is ideal for this. A similar configuration is possible on a Jackdaw - it gives more tank (as it's a naturally shield-bonused ship), but requires implants to get to < 1s align. | + | ==== Insurgency Systems ==== |
- | < | + | The Havoc expansion |
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- | **Hecate Taxi - Cheap(est) < 1s align ship with 500m3+ cargo** | + | |
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- | [Hecate, Hecate Taxi] | + | |
- | Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers | + | ==== Ganking Activity ==== |
- | Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers | + | |
- | Inertial Stabilizers II | + | |
- | Expanded Cargohold II | + | |
- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | + | {{ : |
- | EM Shield Hardener II | + | |
- | Medium Shield Extender II | + | |
- | Medium Shield Extender II | + | |
- | [Empty High slot] | + | Set your route and look to see if you're going through any of the usual gank pipelines. Systems like Uedama, Gheth, Deltole, Ohide, Odin, and others can often be camped by gankers. (Deltole can be avoided but the others are unavoidable if you're staying in highsec.) Tune into the Twitch stream " |
- | [Empty High slot] | + | |
- | [Empty High slot] | + | |
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- | [Empty High slot] | + | |
- | [Empty High slot] | + | |
- | Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II | + | To check your route for ganking activity, use [[https:// |
- | Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II | + | |
- | Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II | + | |
+ | Then look at [[https:// | ||
- | Quafe Zero Green Apple | + | If you think something looks suspicious, look at it closer. Click on the system name in Dotlan and go to the " |
- | </ | + | |
- | </ | + | |
- | This is the cheapest (currently lists @ 241m ISK including the Quafe Zero Green Apple booster - if that sounds like a lot, consider what it will cost you to lose a single set of incursion | + | You may be able to get intel from incursion |
- | Variations of this fit are possible - if you're willing to use a "taxi clone", | ||
- | === Sub two second align taxi === | ||
- | If you cannot afford a <1s align ship, we recommend that you use a courier service (see the section below on Public Hauling Services) to move your items, with appropriate collateral on the contract to protect your items. | ||
- | https:// | + | ==== Scout Ahead ==== |
- | A single stealth bomber | + | With 2 omega accounts you can scout ahead for yourself: have your scout character enter a system ahead of the character |
- | ==== Bowhead ==== | ||
- | Welcome to the world of freighter travel. It's a dangerous world. You don't have a cloak and if anyone decides they really want to gank you, they probably can! | + | === Scouting With One Omega Account === |
- | **__You should be carrying the assembled rigged hulls and nothing else in your Bowhead, all the mods should be going separately via Blockade Runner/ | + | If you only have a single Omega account or are still Alpha, you can't have a second character on to scout yourself. In this case, you have 2 options: ask someone to scout for you, or self-scout using " |
- | Before transitioning to using a Bowhead to move your hulls around you should make stashes so that you can avoid the main gank pipes (Udeama | + | Delayed scouting: |
+ | - Log in your scout character, jump it into the next system, check for gankers, dock up and log off. | ||
+ | - If it seems safe, log in the character flying the hull and jump to that system, dock up and log off. | ||
+ | - Log in the taxi alt carrying the bling and jump to that system, dock up and log off. | ||
+ | - Rinse and repeat until you are in the new focus. | ||
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- | **Bowhead Max Tank 707k EHP** | ||
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- | [Bowhead, Max Tank] | ||
- | Reinforced Bulkheads II | ||
- | Reinforced Bulkheads II | ||
- | Damage Control II | ||
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- | 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive | ||
- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | ||
- | Multispectrum Shield Hardener II | ||
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- | Capital Transverse Bulkhead II | ||
- | Capital Transverse Bulkhead II | ||
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- | ==== Public Hauling Services ==== | ||
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- | A more risk-free approach is to use a hauling service such as [[https:// | ||
- | ==== A Note on Abyssal DCU's ==== | ||
- | Some pilots will use an Abyssal DCU on their Bowhead. There are benefits to doing this, namely it makes it very difficult for ganking entities to determine the amount of ships required to kill you (due to not knowing the resist profile of the module). The downside is that it can make you a more attractive target, and gankers may just use an overkill amount of ships to make sure the job gets done no matter what. |
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